Date Posted: Tuesday 01-Mar-2011
Just about everyone who commented on this article makes me sick. How far we still have to go in this country...David Bullard was at least given the brief to be controversial, what are all of your excuses for defending racism??
Josh
Just about everyone who commented on this article makes me sick. How far we still have to go in this country...David Bullard was at least given the brief to be controversial, what are all of your excuses for defending racism??
Josh
Date Posted: Monday 22-Feb-2010
The original article in the Sunday Times by David Bullard - a master of irony and satire - caused a major fracas.
His brief was "be controversial."
He was fired for this article ! The beginning of the end of Free Media.
He also had to apologise personally to Zuma who sued him for crimen injuria.
He now writes for Richmark Sentinel and Business Day.
He was wrong in one aspect - African Tribes have and will - never live in harmony. They would rather kill each other and kidnap the maidens.
"Live in peace" ? ! ?
South Africa is the most violent nation on earth.
It is not a country for cowards - to survive you need guts and courage.
More so in 2010.
old female
RSA
The original article in the Sunday Times by David Bullard - a master of irony and satire - caused a major fracas.
His brief was "be controversial."
He was fired for this article ! The beginning of the end of Free Media.
He also had to apologise personally to Zuma who sued him for crimen injuria.
He now writes for Richmark Sentinel and Business Day.
He was wrong in one aspect - African Tribes have and will - never live in harmony. They would rather kill each other and kidnap the maidens.
"Live in peace" ? ! ?
South Africa is the most violent nation on earth.
It is not a country for cowards - to survive you need guts and courage.
More so in 2010.
old female
RSA
Date Posted: Monday 22-Feb-2010
@Nduna Zincume: oh my goodness that is utter rubbish. The blacks were happy? In this kind of society your children die often, there is drought and famine and er, ethnic cleansing. This is 'normal', not only related to africa, but happier? That is a very romantic and naive view of pasturalist/ agricultural living.
its bad now, it would be bad then.
karen o
@Nduna Zincume: oh my goodness that is utter rubbish. The blacks were happy? In this kind of society your children die often, there is drought and famine and er, ethnic cleansing. This is 'normal', not only related to africa, but happier? That is a very romantic and naive view of pasturalist/ agricultural living.
its bad now, it would be bad then.
karen o
Date Posted: Sunday 13-Apr-2008
Hi Lars,
what other comment?
Unless its just not been approved yet.
What, in short was your comment about?
Jan Lamprecht
Johannesburg
South Africa
Hi Lars,
what other comment?
Unless its just not been approved yet.
What, in short was your comment about?
Jan Lamprecht
Johannesburg
South Africa
Date Posted: Saturday 12-Apr-2008
Any reason why my other comment was deleted?
Lars Pluss
San Francisco CA
USA
Any reason why my other comment was deleted?
Lars Pluss
San Francisco CA
USA
Date Posted: Saturday 12-Apr-2008
Hi Raboebie,
You are quite right - "Kill the Farmer, Kill the Boer" is not racist - but this column is! How hypocritical!
I doubt all the comments below are accurate about Black Africans being HAPPY. That's junk. I very much doubt that. Watch any episode of SURVIVOR and you'll see it is not fun.
Plus, I doubt the blacks were living in harmony because there was plenty of warfare going on and regular raiding. Don't forget the Transvaal was depopulated by the Zulus annihilating their enemies. And all along West Africa Blacks were catching other blacks and selling them into slavery.
No. I doubt very much blacks were "happy" in a way that would make sense these days.
But, I assume everyone is happy now that David Bullard has been FIRED for this article. Quite sickening really. So much for "freedom of speech" hey?
Here is the article about his firing:-
NEW: Afro-Realism: S.Africa's best Satirical Journalist David Bullard fired for his 19th century "racist" views
I love his new term: "Afro-Realism!" Cool! I love it!
Jan Lamprecht
Johannesburg
South Africa
Hi Raboebie,
You are quite right - "Kill the Farmer, Kill the Boer" is not racist - but this column is! How hypocritical!
I doubt all the comments below are accurate about Black Africans being HAPPY. That's junk. I very much doubt that. Watch any episode of SURVIVOR and you'll see it is not fun.
Plus, I doubt the blacks were living in harmony because there was plenty of warfare going on and regular raiding. Don't forget the Transvaal was depopulated by the Zulus annihilating their enemies. And all along West Africa Blacks were catching other blacks and selling them into slavery.
No. I doubt very much blacks were "happy" in a way that would make sense these days.
But, I assume everyone is happy now that David Bullard has been FIRED for this article. Quite sickening really. So much for "freedom of speech" hey?
Here is the article about his firing:-
NEW: Afro-Realism: S.Africa's best Satirical Journalist David Bullard fired for his 19th century "racist" views
I love his new term: "Afro-Realism!" Cool! I love it!
Jan Lamprecht
Johannesburg
South Africa
Date Posted: Friday 11-Apr-2008
I really can't see the so called racism in the article, but only a very possible "if" reality. But I guess if you want to see racism you will.
I think in any way that I can do with sitting in a cave entrance with a small fire going, staring out over the African landscape with animals grazing..... That will be bliss, peace, freedom.
Don't no for how long before my western need to develop will force me to start modify my cave to be more practical and comfortable. Like a nice sliding door that may keep out the wind, a fireplace with a chimney, nice bed and a few partitions.
Sorry,... suppose to sit in front of the cave doing nothing, and if somebody show me to improve the place I must call him a racist and decline the TV and car and medicine he offered me.
grazy
Pretoria
I really can't see the so called racism in the article, but only a very possible "if" reality. But I guess if you want to see racism you will.
I think in any way that I can do with sitting in a cave entrance with a small fire going, staring out over the African landscape with animals grazing..... That will be bliss, peace, freedom.
Don't no for how long before my western need to develop will force me to start modify my cave to be more practical and comfortable. Like a nice sliding door that may keep out the wind, a fireplace with a chimney, nice bed and a few partitions.
Sorry,... suppose to sit in front of the cave doing nothing, and if somebody show me to improve the place I must call him a racist and decline the TV and car and medicine he offered me.
grazy
Pretoria
Date Posted: Friday 11-Apr-2008
Hi Nduna:
I am not disagreeing with you when you said the black men were happy. But life was no picnic: diseases, child mortality, wars, famines etc.
Interestingly enough, if the Chinese had colonized Africa instead of the Europeans, I believe the Blacks would be far worst off than there are now.
Lars Pluss
San Francisco CA
USA
Hi Nduna:
I am not disagreeing with you when you said the black men were happy. But life was no picnic: diseases, child mortality, wars, famines etc.
Interestingly enough, if the Chinese had colonized Africa instead of the Europeans, I believe the Blacks would be far worst off than there are now.
Lars Pluss
San Francisco CA
USA
Date Posted: Friday 11-Apr-2008
Mondli Makhanya was wrong to fire the author. The uncolonised Africa sounds like a pretty nice place to live. The way of the West is nice for many. The way of the African is just fine for Africa. There can be no doubt that Africa would have developed very differently from what it is today. Africans live in harmony with nature.
Nemo
Mondli Makhanya was wrong to fire the author. The uncolonised Africa sounds like a pretty nice place to live. The way of the West is nice for many. The way of the African is just fine for Africa. There can be no doubt that Africa would have developed very differently from what it is today. Africans live in harmony with nature.
Nemo
Date Posted: Friday 11-Apr-2008
If this is hate speech Id hate to think what "Kill the boer, kill the farmer is" oh, and "one bullet, one settler"
Oh, one more..... "Bring me my machine gun"
And as much as I hate to admit it; there seems to be truth in the article, Zanu PF supporters and "war veterans" are obviously content with a little patch of land and a cow or two as there is no further ambition for strive to revitalise the agricultural sector and re-institute Zim to "the breadbasket of Africa" it once was known as.
Raboebie
UK
If this is hate speech Id hate to think what "Kill the boer, kill the farmer is" oh, and "one bullet, one settler"
Oh, one more..... "Bring me my machine gun"
And as much as I hate to admit it; there seems to be truth in the article, Zanu PF supporters and "war veterans" are obviously content with a little patch of land and a cow or two as there is no further ambition for strive to revitalise the agricultural sector and re-institute Zim to "the breadbasket of Africa" it once was known as.
Raboebie
UK
Date Posted: Friday 11-Apr-2008
> Speaking on Talk Radio 702 on Friday morning, Makhanya said the column was "extremely, extremely, extremely offensive" and "totally against the values of the Sunday Times and the country".
Well Mondli (Makhanya), the truth hurts!
But the good news is that (acknowledging the) truth can set you free indeed. So let's deal out a little more "prabda" below ...
Your paper, otherwise known as the "Sunday Crimes", is nothing but an exercise in arboricide, of which I shall no longer be a blind-eyed participant.
I judge any paper not by its accuracy (which is deteriorating daily), or by its news (I get the *REAL* news on Sky or CNN), but by the quality of its editorial comment. Without David Bullard I have no further interest in 101 pages of off-white parchment and off-black imprint.
It's like the other big fiasco in this country, Eskom, the inheritance has finally all been spent and we sit with a set of near-decrepit capital plant and probably completely decrepit human capital.
Ronkent's Nemesis
nee Pretoria
Zumamania
> Speaking on Talk Radio 702 on Friday morning, Makhanya said the column was "extremely, extremely, extremely offensive" and "totally against the values of the Sunday Times and the country".
Well Mondli (Makhanya), the truth hurts!
But the good news is that (acknowledging the) truth can set you free indeed. So let's deal out a little more "prabda" below ...
Your paper, otherwise known as the "Sunday Crimes", is nothing but an exercise in arboricide, of which I shall no longer be a blind-eyed participant.
I judge any paper not by its accuracy (which is deteriorating daily), or by its news (I get the *REAL* news on Sky or CNN), but by the quality of its editorial comment. Without David Bullard I have no further interest in 101 pages of off-white parchment and off-black imprint.
It's like the other big fiasco in this country, Eskom, the inheritance has finally all been spent and we sit with a set of near-decrepit capital plant and probably completely decrepit human capital.
Ronkent's Nemesis
nee Pretoria
Zumamania
Date Posted: Thursday 10-Apr-2008
simple - Mandela didn't mean it
Onthefence
Joburg
South Africa
simple - Mandela didn't mean it
Onthefence
Joburg
South Africa
Date Posted: Thursday 10-Apr-2008
Is this what Mandela meant when he preached reconciliation among all races? David Bullard's article can only incite racial hatred & intolerance in this country. This is hate speech. Let me tell you something: criminals can read very well and they will use every excuse in the book - including this article -to commit serious crime.
Loeto
Mafikeng
South Africa
Is this what Mandela meant when he preached reconciliation among all races? David Bullard's article can only incite racial hatred & intolerance in this country. This is hate speech. Let me tell you something: criminals can read very well and they will use every excuse in the book - including this article -to commit serious crime.
Loeto
Mafikeng
South Africa
Date Posted: Thursday 10-Apr-2008
Hi Lars
One thing that David does not acknowledge in the article is that fact that blacks were happy. They might not have been aware of the gold or any other thing that he is pointing out to, but the fact is black man was happy. The very things that we have discovered have made us to be greedy, unsatisfied, jealous and the list is endless.
Nduna Zincume
Cape Town
RSA
Hi Lars
One thing that David does not acknowledge in the article is that fact that blacks were happy. They might not have been aware of the gold or any other thing that he is pointing out to, but the fact is black man was happy. The very things that we have discovered have made us to be greedy, unsatisfied, jealous and the list is endless.
Nduna Zincume
Cape Town
RSA
Date Posted: Wednesday 09-Apr-2008
I was thinking about this for some time now.
If we were not beaten down and have to stand up again,
we would just stay the guilty party.
Now the world can see what the truth is,.. if their eyes are open.
Thanks Lars
grazy
Pretoria
I was thinking about this for some time now.
If we were not beaten down and have to stand up again,
we would just stay the guilty party.
Now the world can see what the truth is,.. if their eyes are open.
Thanks Lars
grazy
Pretoria
Date Posted: Wednesday 09-Apr-2008
I don't know, it sound like Paradise to me... except for the occasional ethnic cleansing...
Anonymous
I don't know, it sound like Paradise to me... except for the occasional ethnic cleansing...
Anonymous
Date Posted: Wednesday 09-Apr-2008
Hi Brian,
This article by David Bullard is brilliant.
It points out the ridiculous nature of the Far Left's arguments against Colonialism.
The Blacks benefited plenty - and the spoilt rotten Blacks of South Africa benefited more than anyone on this continent.
If the Whites had not come, the Blacks of South Africa would have fought among themselves for centuries with nothing to show for it.
Jan Lamprecht
Johannesburg
South Africa
Hi Brian,
This article by David Bullard is brilliant.
It points out the ridiculous nature of the Far Left's arguments against Colonialism.
The Blacks benefited plenty - and the spoilt rotten Blacks of South Africa benefited more than anyone on this continent.
If the Whites had not come, the Blacks of South Africa would have fought among themselves for centuries with nothing to show for it.
Jan Lamprecht
Johannesburg
South Africa
Date Posted: Wednesday 09-Apr-2008
Hi Lars,
thanks for the lovely compliment for all of us:-
I saw that...I'm amazed of the will power white people have in your country and that there are still millions of you left in South Africa.
But we're not as strong as our forefathers and the earlier generations were. But we're working on it.
You know the South Africans, Portuguese, South West Africans and Rhodesians were all beaten down by the rest of the world all together. We had the cr*p kicked out of us by everyone on the planet. We thought we had nothing left to live for. We thought we would never stand a chance again.
The Afrikaners were like that after the Anglo-Boer war. But they rose again and did even greater things, until they were defeated again in 1994.
For the Rhodesians it was a first experience. We lost. We lost EVERYTHING and ALL HOPE. But the SPIRIT remained... and it remained strong. And it just grew STRONGER. Now we know we've survived. The Afrikaners are starting to come right too. The rest of White South Africans need to come around to it too.
I think our survival has proven to us, that we were laid low by the whole world but our spirit has survived and we're much stronger in spirit than before.
Since the Rhodesians did not have a long history like the Boers, for them the loss of Rhodesia was a first, and it left us all completely convinced that this is the end, and we'll never rise again. But the last 20 years has shown that we're not broken. Our spirit is back. It is back in the form of support for the MDC, but our spirit is there, and the Blacks now WANT US around. The Blacks too have realised our value.
History will show, I believe, that Robert Mugabe made a hideous mistake in 2000. The entire history of Africa, I believe, will change as a result of what he did. Mugabe has actually unleashed the very forces (among the BLACKS!) that may undo everything that Black so-called Liberation stood for. Mugabe has done more damage to the Black race than any other Black leader. He and his fellows just have not realised it yet and they all think he's their hero. He will be their very undoing.
Whites in SA have been hit with so much White guilt - from every conceivable angle, its amazing any of them can think straight any more.
But the Afrikaners have been through tougher times than the Rhodesians and they have a longer history which they can be rightly proud of. And if they will look into their history they will find the inspiration they need.
We have the potential for much more if we will only emulate and acquire the strength that our forefathers had.
David Bullard is no militant. But he is a very bright fellow and a brilliant (and hillarious) journalist.
I thought he wrote this with real style and pointed out the ridiculousness of the Black position on Colonialism.
What I really loved was the ending with the Chinese ships and aircraft arriving. Bullard's point is that even if Whites did not colonise Africa, the Chinese (or the Indians - don't forget them - they're a future super-power too) - will.
The Blacks would have been even more unprepared for the modern world if the Whites had not colonised Africa.
And let me tell you, in Zimbabwe, more and more Blacks are realising the value of Whites and they want Whites among them. More and more Blacks in Africa are quietly starting to realise the value of Whites. Its still in its infancy... but there could be a change of consciousness (which Mugabe, through his actions, will be speeding up) slowly beginning as the Blacks look around themselves and realise the reality.
I hope Lars that in the future, the few million whites and the few million ex-pat whites will stand together stronger and firmer.
The future of the World's biggest (Or 2nd biggest?) continent is at stake.
Jan Lamprecht
Johannesburg
South Africa
Hi Lars,
thanks for the lovely compliment for all of us:-
I saw that...I'm amazed of the will power white people have in your country and that there are still millions of you left in South Africa.
But we're not as strong as our forefathers and the earlier generations were. But we're working on it.
You know the South Africans, Portuguese, South West Africans and Rhodesians were all beaten down by the rest of the world all together. We had the cr*p kicked out of us by everyone on the planet. We thought we had nothing left to live for. We thought we would never stand a chance again.
The Afrikaners were like that after the Anglo-Boer war. But they rose again and did even greater things, until they were defeated again in 1994.
For the Rhodesians it was a first experience. We lost. We lost EVERYTHING and ALL HOPE. But the SPIRIT remained... and it remained strong. And it just grew STRONGER. Now we know we've survived. The Afrikaners are starting to come right too. The rest of White South Africans need to come around to it too.
I think our survival has proven to us, that we were laid low by the whole world but our spirit has survived and we're much stronger in spirit than before.
Since the Rhodesians did not have a long history like the Boers, for them the loss of Rhodesia was a first, and it left us all completely convinced that this is the end, and we'll never rise again. But the last 20 years has shown that we're not broken. Our spirit is back. It is back in the form of support for the MDC, but our spirit is there, and the Blacks now WANT US around. The Blacks too have realised our value.
History will show, I believe, that Robert Mugabe made a hideous mistake in 2000. The entire history of Africa, I believe, will change as a result of what he did. Mugabe has actually unleashed the very forces (among the BLACKS!) that may undo everything that Black so-called Liberation stood for. Mugabe has done more damage to the Black race than any other Black leader. He and his fellows just have not realised it yet and they all think he's their hero. He will be their very undoing.
Whites in SA have been hit with so much White guilt - from every conceivable angle, its amazing any of them can think straight any more.
But the Afrikaners have been through tougher times than the Rhodesians and they have a longer history which they can be rightly proud of. And if they will look into their history they will find the inspiration they need.
We have the potential for much more if we will only emulate and acquire the strength that our forefathers had.
David Bullard is no militant. But he is a very bright fellow and a brilliant (and hillarious) journalist.
I thought he wrote this with real style and pointed out the ridiculousness of the Black position on Colonialism.
What I really loved was the ending with the Chinese ships and aircraft arriving. Bullard's point is that even if Whites did not colonise Africa, the Chinese (or the Indians - don't forget them - they're a future super-power too) - will.
The Blacks would have been even more unprepared for the modern world if the Whites had not colonised Africa.
And let me tell you, in Zimbabwe, more and more Blacks are realising the value of Whites and they want Whites among them. More and more Blacks in Africa are quietly starting to realise the value of Whites. Its still in its infancy... but there could be a change of consciousness (which Mugabe, through his actions, will be speeding up) slowly beginning as the Blacks look around themselves and realise the reality.
I hope Lars that in the future, the few million whites and the few million ex-pat whites will stand together stronger and firmer.
The future of the World's biggest (Or 2nd biggest?) continent is at stake.
Jan Lamprecht
Johannesburg
South Africa
Date Posted: Tuesday 08-Apr-2008
Glad to see that David Bullard is still proving that the pen is mightier than the sword. Just think though, no permanent buildings, just mud and wattle huts, a life expectancy of only 35 to 40 years (they are on the way back to that now), massive numbers of deaths from diseases such as malaria and the tetse fly and droughts common, millions never see the sea as it is too far to walk, and so on. The list is almost endless with the joy that lack of knowledge brings and it was only a very short 4 to 500 years ago.
For the men though, the women do all the menial work in the fields while the men sit around talking and drinking beer made by the females apart from the occasional forage for women and slaves a a fairly close village of another tribe.
Best of all, no extra taxes levied because politicians are screaming out about global warming, the natural periodical event due to solar activity that no one can stop, just prepare for it.
No power cuts and no moaning about the price of fuel, and no worries because there are no newspapers because no one knows how to read and write anyway.
It is all a big NO-NO isn't it?
Brian & Beverlee Deller
Marbella
Spain
Glad to see that David Bullard is still proving that the pen is mightier than the sword. Just think though, no permanent buildings, just mud and wattle huts, a life expectancy of only 35 to 40 years (they are on the way back to that now), massive numbers of deaths from diseases such as malaria and the tetse fly and droughts common, millions never see the sea as it is too far to walk, and so on. The list is almost endless with the joy that lack of knowledge brings and it was only a very short 4 to 500 years ago.
For the men though, the women do all the menial work in the fields while the men sit around talking and drinking beer made by the females apart from the occasional forage for women and slaves a a fairly close village of another tribe.
Best of all, no extra taxes levied because politicians are screaming out about global warming, the natural periodical event due to solar activity that no one can stop, just prepare for it.
No power cuts and no moaning about the price of fuel, and no worries because there are no newspapers because no one knows how to read and write anyway.
It is all a big NO-NO isn't it?
Brian & Beverlee Deller
Marbella
Spain
Date Posted: Tuesday 08-Apr-2008
I saw that...I'm amazed of the will power white people have in your country and that there are still millions of you left in South Africa.
Lars Pluss
San Francisco CA
USA
I saw that...I'm amazed of the will power white people have in your country and that there are still millions of you left in South Africa.
Lars Pluss
San Francisco CA
USA
Date Posted: Tuesday 08-Apr-2008
Thanks a ton Lars! You beat me to this one. I was going to scan the newspaper version of it.
Its flipping lovely... written by David Bullard - who was shot and injured by a criminal in his own home here in Johannesburg some months back.
Jan Lamprecht
Johannesburg
South Africa
http://www.africancrisis.co.za/Article.php?ID=25321
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